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Ultimate Strategy: Revolver 2 - 1 Ironside »

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Boston comes out for their second offensive point in a vertical stack pushed towards the break side, with two players out in the lane.

Revolver has again pushed the dump defender out to double team the thrower for a few seconds. They’re still backing Ironside, but playing them a bit…

Ironside’s dump, as mentioned, isn’t set up in the normal way. They start from in front of the disc, at a 45 degree angle, and it consists of two cuts: one to the breakside, and one to the open side. Starting the dump cut from there seems pretty smart - instead of wasting a few stall counts for a cutter to get to that point and then decide to go up line or come back, the cutter starts at that point and ideally gets open (or not) within a headfake. Additionally, if they end up throwing the break to the dump side, that cut loses less yards since it starts 5-10 yards upfield, and for the same reason if the open side cut is an up line, it stands to gain more yards, like the scoring cut they used.

On the other hand…I can’t really think of solid negatives to this approach, only situational things.

  • Maybe the break throw is gets harder if it’s more upfield? The person with the disc must have a confident IO break, but this shouldn’t be an issue in any open club level play, and especially not at natties.
  • Or, the open side cut could get poached more easily since it’s up field closer to the stack and the other defenders? Never saw this happen, but again, it’s a non-issue with good handlers.
  • Structuring the cuts in this way clogs both the open and break side lanes for a few seconds, whereas in traditional dump cuts, rescue cuts often come from the stack when the dump cannot get open. I’m curious to see how they handle it when this dump set up fails.

I’m really curious why I don’t see this type of dump cut setup at lower levels, or if there’s any reason besides adhering to tradition. The throws they made to hit these cuts were a bit harder, but not out of reach for handlers I’ve played with and against.

Revolver’s man-to-man defense does a good job of pressuring Ironside’s throwers and receivers, but Ironside’s vertical stack offense is the inheritor of DoG’s legendary possession offense. Instead of taking chances downfield, they pride themselves on completing lots of passes under pressure.

That’s pretty interesting. I did notice that the D was very tight, and there were multiple layouts on in-cuts, but it’s pretty awesome to see that not only was Ironside not rattled by the D, they were probably very confident in those situations.